Kirkheaton Friendly
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Post by Kirkheaton Friendly on Aug 23, 2005 9:13:59 GMT
Good run out last night considering...... .........considering that we were on the rec pitch, still getting used to the new players that have arrived, nearly everybody subbed during the game and we switched the formation around. Here are my positives: - We scored 3 good goals. - We went behind three times yet still didn't lose the game. - Second half we tried to play the ball on the ground, and even though it may not have worked everytime at least the believe was there that we can play football. - The subs all did well, providing a strong pool of players for the manager to pick from. - Worked the ball well down the wings when we got it there. - We now know the areas that we need to develop in training in relation to not conceeding future sloppy goals. The management team should, and I'm sure will have enjoyed watching that game from the prospective of evaluating our strengths and weaknesses and now have a platform to work with and improve on. Even though they have expressed that they believe we have not played to our potential in pre-season, this is just a short term view, and I'm sure that they will be looking at our long term objectives and how they can go about achieving them by molding, shaping and inspiring their young crop of players. Unlike previous years, encouragement will only benefit the team and allow individuals to have the confidence to communicate with fellow players. This isn't going to happen over night, but there is a good spirit within the club at the momet and this needs to be maintained if the club are to be successful. Nobody plays great if they don't feel great! What does everybody else think?
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Post by Batts on Aug 23, 2005 9:47:03 GMT
The game last night was a frustrating one. We played like a group of individuals with basic talent, but not as a team all pulling in the same direction.
From my perspective we don't anticipate the loose ball coming in our direction, or offer the man on the ball an option. To be fair the loose ball did fall to them yesterday, but when it looked like a centre back may just hoof the ball their wingers anticipated this and stole a march on their marker. It happened regularly in both halfs. When we pick up the loose ball we want to play football, which is an unfortunate product of our footballing mentality. The trick is to know when is the best time to play the short ball, or play the 'educated' long ball. Tiny played an educated long ball yesterday that was inches away from being a Beckham special, but instead of greeting this the defence bollocked him for playing a hoof. There is a difference between a hoof and an educated long ball.
One of Eddie's favourite points is when the players in the attacking positions are being marked they are content to stand with their marker. This effectively limits us to eight outfield players if both wingers are stood hiding with their marker. We need to believe that when one of us has the ball then we should get into a strategic position that will assist the ball carrier. Ask Rich Bray about this. At Bay he would have five options when he got the ball. At Honley he is lucky to have two...
Tactics wise when we get the ball we should have an idea of where we are going to play the ball. When I get the ball on one side my first reaction is to switch play over the left backs head for Bowker to run onto. Now we've played long enough together that Bowker recognises when I am likely to play that ball. If I play the ball into that position and he's stood holding the defenders hand, or isn't expecting it then from my point of view he is at fault. So when Rich Bray gets the ball in the middle of the park where is he going to play the ball? Who is making a move to offer him an option? We are in possession what do the wingers do? What do the defenders do? Where does Rich want to attackers to move to? This is how a team performs, they see what the man is going to do before he even knows himself what to do. The ball carrier should have it in his head what he is going to do with the ball before he receives it. He should be thinking one step ahead.
When we eventually all pull in the same direction with people doing their expected job and not hiding then we will eventually shed the bridesmaids tag. At the moment we are managing alright performances simply through are own raw talents.
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Post by Batts on Aug 23, 2005 9:55:17 GMT
Rich, these are my positives: - We do create a decent amount of half chances. - The crossing improved because we got the ball into the box earlier. - When the chips were down we didn't truly get on each others backs (do some players need a bollocking to up there game though?) - We look like we've got a large pool of decent players - Fitness levels are good - Socialising after the match was good - Miggie slipped in well as the sweeper - Tiny looked positive and should be pushing for a starting position come the first game - Doran will cause a lot of trouble for defenders this year - Rich Bray, G, and Marshy are prepared to play football - Marcus again had an accomplished game in pegs - We scored three goals and didn't give up Rich, get that spell checker on next time you post
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Post by Captain Rico Originator on Aug 23, 2005 10:17:01 GMT
Didn't realize it had a spell checker - can you not edit it?
I agree with your comments in both posts Bats. Especially with the comment that "we didn't get on each others backs". This had been the case at Honley for as long as I can remember and it wasn't just the players playing that didn't help the cause!
It has been mentioned that there is not enough communicating going on in pre-season, but I think this is being mis-understood. I heard plenty of people yesterday giving words of advice to people around them. Just because people watching can not hear this doesn't mean that it isn't going on.
It has been perceived, and again was yesterday, that the only person that was truly trying was the one that shouted the loudest. This can be counter productive - Hutch full of hens all trying to be noticed leads to one loud incomprehensible cackle - communication is not just about shouting the loudest! Body language and hand signals (positive ones!) are just, if not more, effective (quicker for the brain to understand), and I saw alot of this yesterday, yet people watching (and I don't mean the management team) were shouting that nobody was wanting it!
It's something that needs to be addressed in the next friendly.
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Post by Batts on Aug 23, 2005 11:00:40 GMT
Very true rich. It's been like that for a while now. Just because Grant and Wayne can shout the loudest does this mean that they are the only ones trying?
There are plenty of other ways to show that you are committed. And the players on the park with you can read this a lot more than those on the touchline.
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Post by Carlos on Aug 23, 2005 12:20:43 GMT
I think theres some damn well good comments put down there chaps.
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Post by Captain Rico on Aug 23, 2005 13:35:23 GMT
Anybody else have any comments to make - positive or negative?
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Post by Youth on Aug 24, 2005 6:51:37 GMT
Nice to see such a positive attitude from you guys, this is a big percentage of teams ability to win things. Lets get the same attitude into everyones mind and believe we can win something.
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Post by Batts on Aug 24, 2005 10:00:25 GMT
See if we can focus on the positives in the team talk tonight, rather than the negatives. Sometimes we need to be told how good we are, as well as how bad we are.
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Post by Captain Rico on Aug 24, 2005 11:23:20 GMT
We have two pre-season games left, lets use them as an oppurtunity to put these things into practise. It's also essential that people begin to enjoy the game again. Let's go out and have a bit of fun while we try these things. If we lose a pre-season game whilst were experimenting then so what!? Lets experiment. It's the big picture we should be looking at, not just one game! FUN FUN FUN ;D ;D
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Post by Captain Rico on Aug 25, 2005 8:53:31 GMT
SO....... what are the thoughts from last nights game against Brooks?
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Post by Batts on Aug 25, 2005 9:50:38 GMT
We could of had a cricket score. Their defence and midfield weren't much cop.
Still a lot of indecision in the defensive ranks though. We need someone to make a conscious decision to take charge of any loose balls or headers in and around the box. But that should come with time playing with each other.
What about you Cap?
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Post by Spider Legs on Aug 25, 2005 9:57:27 GMT
i enjoyed the game last night.
i thought we gelled better as a team, especially at the back, which gave us a good platform to go forward in the 1st half. i liked how we were looking for players and keeping it simple. Although Brooks 1st goal was very simple.
we have to keep in mind our discipline though. i know they were cheating at the end by keeping 4 up front,and the game was probably won. However i felt that we could have made life a little easier by not constantly attacking which we had done for most of the game. if the game is won just keep the ball and stick to your position there is no need to chase, harrass and waste your energy when your 3 goals up with 10 minutes to go. the pros dont do it so why should we!! i know were not pros but the principles are exactly the same at whatever level you play at. by the way we started to do it right at the end (last 2 minutes) but they had scored 2 goals by then!!
im not having at go because i thought we played well its just something to bear in mind for the holmbridge game next week
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Post by Spider legs on Aug 25, 2005 10:00:40 GMT
isnt that the job of the sweeper as the other two are marking, batts??? i thought spud had a decent game even though hes only been with us less than a month
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Post by Batts on Aug 25, 2005 10:08:42 GMT
It possibly is the job of the sweeper.
But you know what I want you to be doing week in week out Ally.
I think Spud should get the defence sorted though, he's got the experience that we've been asking for for a while now.
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